Have you heard of Jeffrey Martin and the Finders course? I'm similar to you in that I've tried a ton of stuff and read a ton of stuff. From an enlightenment perspective I think Finders Course is the best bet. From psychological perspective I think the feeling therapies like ISTDP and Coherence Therapy are the best bet. Self-help wise things like Gendlin's Focusing, and Michael Brown's Presence Process, that bring your conscious awareness more in line with your unconscious, visceral feelings are the best. Just my $0.02.
I read Scott's post but didn't click the link or connect the dots. So cool! Well deserved recognition.
A few thoughts and a question:
1. I appreciate the 'epistemic status' and am going to implement that myself
2. n of 1 trials are highly underrated
3. I've noticed a similar phenomena - "Over time what’s happening is that less and less of what i’m believing is ‘woo’ and more and more of it is directly actionable or seems to map directly on to what ‘most science people’ seem to agree on."
Question: Have you tried or made any progress in the Pineal Yoga practice mentioned in the Sadhguru link?
As for Sadhguru, i've read two of his books and have only tried the relatively cheap experiments like going vegetarian for a month (did this twice), or the exercise where, before going to sleep, you write down all these identities and say, 'that's not me.' I'll look into this pineal yoga business and maybe see what happens. I did try a little bit of kundalini yoga once, and it seemed to be helpful at getting me to wake up in the afternoon. Maybe i'll go back to that...
The thing about Sadhguru is that maybe 80% of what i says i feel like makes sense. When i engage fully with the moment, when I identify as life itself, when I accept whatever's happening around me and try to 'play along' i feel great. So he must be on to something, right? And then he'll say something like, 'oh you can avoid eating and sleeping and be totally fine even if you get buried in mud for 20 years, this really happened to some guy.' And i haven't done the experiment or anything but i'm pretty sure that last part is not true.
The holotropic stuff is used by Stan Grof. Weird that their last names rhyme. The technique is mentioned in the Pollan book “How to Change Your Mind” .
The Twin City Psychedeliic Society had a guy supposedly trained in it that held group sessions pre-Covid. I went to an introductory class and the instructor seemed unprofessional, so I didn’t do a breathing session with him.
Just sticking with a Theravadan meditation and occasionally some psilocybin right now.
You can find Wim Hof breathing videos online; it's not too hard to do and you get some pretty interesting results after about 5 minutes or so of it. The book "Breath: New Science of a Lost Art" was instrumental for me here.
Have you heard of Jeffrey Martin and the Finders course? I'm similar to you in that I've tried a ton of stuff and read a ton of stuff. From an enlightenment perspective I think Finders Course is the best bet. From psychological perspective I think the feeling therapies like ISTDP and Coherence Therapy are the best bet. Self-help wise things like Gendlin's Focusing, and Michael Brown's Presence Process, that bring your conscious awareness more in line with your unconscious, visceral feelings are the best. Just my $0.02.
Thanks for sharing! I may look into some of these.
I read Scott's post but didn't click the link or connect the dots. So cool! Well deserved recognition.
A few thoughts and a question:
1. I appreciate the 'epistemic status' and am going to implement that myself
2. n of 1 trials are highly underrated
3. I've noticed a similar phenomena - "Over time what’s happening is that less and less of what i’m believing is ‘woo’ and more and more of it is directly actionable or seems to map directly on to what ‘most science people’ seem to agree on."
Question: Have you tried or made any progress in the Pineal Yoga practice mentioned in the Sadhguru link?
Thank you!
As for Sadhguru, i've read two of his books and have only tried the relatively cheap experiments like going vegetarian for a month (did this twice), or the exercise where, before going to sleep, you write down all these identities and say, 'that's not me.' I'll look into this pineal yoga business and maybe see what happens. I did try a little bit of kundalini yoga once, and it seemed to be helpful at getting me to wake up in the afternoon. Maybe i'll go back to that...
The thing about Sadhguru is that maybe 80% of what i says i feel like makes sense. When i engage fully with the moment, when I identify as life itself, when I accept whatever's happening around me and try to 'play along' i feel great. So he must be on to something, right? And then he'll say something like, 'oh you can avoid eating and sleeping and be totally fine even if you get buried in mud for 20 years, this really happened to some guy.' And i haven't done the experiment or anything but i'm pretty sure that last part is not true.
So this breathing technique? Are you talking about holotropic breathing?
I just read up on holotropic breathing. It sounds similar to the stuff I've been doing, which I learned about through Wim Hof.
The holotropic stuff is used by Stan Grof. Weird that their last names rhyme. The technique is mentioned in the Pollan book “How to Change Your Mind” .
The Twin City Psychedeliic Society had a guy supposedly trained in it that held group sessions pre-Covid. I went to an introductory class and the instructor seemed unprofessional, so I didn’t do a breathing session with him.
Just sticking with a Theravadan meditation and occasionally some psilocybin right now.
You can find Wim Hof breathing videos online; it's not too hard to do and you get some pretty interesting results after about 5 minutes or so of it. The book "Breath: New Science of a Lost Art" was instrumental for me here.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.